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Apr 2, 2020 13:47:03 GMT
Post by shatter2 on Apr 2, 2020 13:47:03 GMT
I wonder how many times the phrase "Ramping up" will be used!!
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Apr 2, 2020 15:10:38 GMT
Post by flathatter on Apr 2, 2020 15:10:38 GMT
What happen then when the mask droplets dry out whilst you are still wearing it? You are then inhaling concentrated virus the worst possible scenario! Taking it off also represents a hazard as you are then touching the virus. Frontline staff are wearing them to protect the patients. The masks don't protect the staff as many have acquired it, and several have died. Still not convinced! The article I read regarding medical masks is that they need to be 3-ply or more: "A good quality surgical mask generally has a three-ply layer with the innermost layer used for absorbing moisture, the middle layer is a filter and outermost layer repels water." Good enough for me flattie. That’s surgical quality Dave not the Screwfix dust masks that some folks are walking about in!
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Apr 2, 2020 15:54:17 GMT
Post by offpat on Apr 2, 2020 15:54:17 GMT
Hi everyone -
been a long time in the dumps here - but keen to see something happening vaguely related to my beloved hatters... I have a Public Health professional neighbour and we used to work together in the health and social care system both of us have argued that, in the current crisis, if everyone wears a mask - or just a scarf in front of their nose and mouth then the chances of infection are massively reduced.
The point is to stop the sneezing/coughing droplets etc spreading from the potentially infected people, not that these ordinary cheap masks. or scarfs, protect the uninfected. (different higher level masking would be for those carers likely to be directly in the firing line because they are dealing with the already sick.)
If you want to protect yourself - one bleeding obvious thing to do is to heavily load up on the Vitamin D3 - it boosts the immunity particularly against respiratory tract infections (viral and bacterial)
The tablets I take are 4000 units - and watch this Dr's other videos as well.
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Apr 2, 2020 15:58:25 GMT
Post by flathatter on Apr 2, 2020 15:58:25 GMT
What happen then when the mask droplets dry out whilst you are still wearing it? You are then inhaling concentrated virus the worst possible scenario! Taking it off also represents a hazard as you are then touching the virus. Frontline staff are wearing them to protect the patients. The masks don't protect the staff as many have acquired it, and several have died. Still not convinced! Did you manage to watch that video? Yes I did Bill. I’m waiting to see if the WHO change their minds. I still think that it is giving people a false sense of security. As you know I live on a main thoroughfare and I see people walking past with all sorts of things strapped to their faces! Screwfix dust masks is my favourite!
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Apr 2, 2020 16:01:30 GMT
Post by bms on Apr 2, 2020 16:01:30 GMT
I wonder how many times the phrase "Ramping up" will be used!! 😂
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Apr 2, 2020 17:26:52 GMT
Post by maggiechow on Apr 2, 2020 17:26:52 GMT
At least 6, although I wasn't really counting.
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Apr 2, 2020 17:28:38 GMT
Post by rutlandhatter on Apr 2, 2020 17:28:38 GMT
Vitamin D wont stop you getting a virus and the evidence that it helps with respiratory tract infections is limited and controversial. The main beneficiaries appear to be those who had low levels of Vitamin D in the first place. www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/315886#Conclusions-from-the-data the best things to do to reduce the risk of infection are frequent hand washing, social isolation and, if you really have to go out, social distancing.
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Apr 2, 2020 17:43:44 GMT
Post by offpat on Apr 2, 2020 17:43:44 GMT
Vitamin D wont stop you getting a virus and the evidence that it helps with respiratory tract infections is limited and controversial. The main beneficiaries appear to be those who had low levels of Vitamin D in the first place. www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/315886#Conclusions-from-the-data the best things to do to reduce the risk of infection are frequent hand washing, social isolation and, if you really have to go out, social distancing. "Stop" is a maybe, always - watch the video and see the research he quotes, it's solid metadata stuff. really - for many in this country who only ever go out in the sun wearing layers of sunscreen, and all those with naturally dark skin living in this northern latitude, the odds are significant. and he is a huge fan of all the other measures too.
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Apr 3, 2020 8:50:59 GMT
Post by rutlandhatter on Apr 3, 2020 8:50:59 GMT
The evidence is selective. The Medical News Today article is citing both sides of the research argument. We should also remember that high doses of any vitamin can lead to unwated side effects. I was once prescribed vitamin B but reacted badly to the doseage I was meant to take and got quite ill. That was 20 years ago. Since then I stopped taking all supplements but concentratated on fresh fruit and vegetables, raw where possible, and a well balanced diet. I had very serious bronchitis as a child/teenager leaving me with weak lungs. Nevertheless in the last 20 years I've had flu (once, not long after stopping vitamins), 3 mild chest infections and 2 colds. I tend to think if you eat well, don't smoke, take some exercise you'll be OK unless, of course, your immune system has been compromised.
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Apr 13, 2020 8:44:28 GMT
Post by Wimbo on Apr 13, 2020 8:44:28 GMT
I thought this was rather nice from Andrea Bocelli on Easter Sunday: The notes that go with the youtube clip: "On Easter Sunday (April 12, 2020), by invitation of the City and of the Duomo cathedral of Milan, Italian global music icon Andrea Bocelli gave a solo performance representing a message of love, healing and hope to Italy and the world".
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Apr 14, 2020 19:10:49 GMT
Post by maggiechow on Apr 14, 2020 19:10:49 GMT
Beautiful, Wimbo 🙂
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Apr 15, 2020 12:06:28 GMT
Post by Wimbo on Apr 15, 2020 12:06:28 GMT
If you have a moment or two, and most of us do during the lockdown, have a read of the first two-thirds of the Howard Marks Memo, Link: www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/howard-marks-memosWhilst Marks is an investor, the questions he poses Re: Covid are probably close to the ones were are mostly asking as we ponder returning to either normality or a new way of living & working.
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Apr 15, 2020 15:06:17 GMT
Post by Wimbo on Apr 15, 2020 15:06:17 GMT
Whilst we are all on lockdown I am really missing the early morning swim & can't think when that will be available again, 6 months or more; I guess others are also missing their exercise. In the meantime its a 6am run followed at 9am by PE with Joe live on youtube; if you miss it, it's recorded. PE with Joe is well worth a try and harder than it looks but afterwards, you feel so much better: give it go:
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Apr 15, 2020 20:47:03 GMT
Post by shatter2 on Apr 15, 2020 20:47:03 GMT
Missing my swimming too Wimbo, doing some cycling and walking once a day. Thanks for Joe's exercise thread may give it a go.
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Apr 16, 2020 9:25:20 GMT
Post by Wimbo on Apr 16, 2020 9:25:20 GMT
Picked this up on BBC News feed today and what with social distancing, I really have doubts about us returning as supporters to the Kenny before a widely available vaccine becomes available. Just how would you do social distancing at the Kenny?
UK 'to need social distancing until vaccine ready' Professor Neil Ferguson, whose scientific modelling has guided the UK government's coronavirus strategy, has said the nation will need to keep up some form of social distancing until a vaccine becomes available.
Discussing whether lockdown measures could be eased after another three weeks, Ferguson told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "I think that will very much depend on quite how quickly case numbers go down, and that does require us to get on top of things like transmission rates in hospitals and care homes."
The Imperial College London epidemiologist said a ramping up of testing and contact tracing was needed, adding that if lockdown measures were relaxed without something in their place the UK could see a resurgence of transmission.
"We will have to maintain some form of social distancing, a significant level of social distancing, probably indefinitely until we have a vaccine available," he said.
There is currently no proven vaccine for the virus. A team at the University of Oxford said last week it was confident it could have a vaccine working by September, but that it would likely not be ready for distribution until next year.
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